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NCAA banned individual school TV contracts in 1951

Penn sued, but was not successful, and they dropped the TV contract. NCAA had voted to expel the Quakers from the NCAA if they didn't drop it.

Notre Dame also had its own TV contract then. They decided to get around the ban by recording their games and their telecasts became replays only. The benefit of their doing this is that it has created a large inventory of Notre Dame football games in the 1950s and 1960s that exist today. They are black and white only, but they do exist.

This is what you call restraint by the NCAA.

ESPN is never going to have them all. They are not going to pay the B1G enough to have theirs 100%, and they have made it clear they don't want the Big XII. I can see why they want the PAC12, but they aren't going to overpay for it.

It will be interesting to see what happens. Right now the Big XII and PAC 12 are overpaid. That may come to an end in 5 years or so. I don't have the impression that Fox or ESPN want to overpay for either again. They both wanted the B1G. Games with Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, and Penn State get ratings.

[Post edited by HOO86 at 03/30/2019 12:52PM]

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Posted: 03/30/2019 at 12:52PM

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PAC-12 rejected ESPN offer to take over the PAC-12 Networks -- HOO86 03/25/2019 10:50AM

Even though it may not make much sense for the Pac-12 to go this route -- VTHokie2000 03/25/2019 1:13PM

Good discussion below. -- 2hhoop3 03/28/2019 2:25PM

Let's see. Stability for decades. More revenue for the PAC12 network. -- HOO86 03/25/2019 7:19PM

I seriously doubt ESPN was willing to offer the Pac-12 more money -- VTHokie2000 03/25/2019 9:56PM

They would if they locked in long term. -- HOO86 03/25/2019 10:43PM

The Pac-12 seems to disagree with your assessment -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 11:43AM

The PAC12 is betting on more digital outlets to have a bidding war on PAC12 -- HOO86 03/26/2019 12:54PM

Except you can't be sure ESPN was willing to offer the Pac-12 more money -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 1:02PM

ESPN probably offered them what they are worth. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 1:29PM

Or low balled them to save a buck -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 2:03PM

I figure espn probably doesn't necessarily want the Pac-12 properties. -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 02:43AM

ESPN wants to be THE College Sports Source. -- HOO86 03/29/2019 2:38PM

If ESPN did manage to get all the college networks -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 4:33PM

Not if they are of their creation. -- HOO86 03/29/2019 4:52PM

Except not all the networks are of ESPN's creation though -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 5:02PM

ESPN is never going to have everything -- HOO86 03/29/2019 5:31PM

I am not sure it is a moot point though because the NCAA didn't control -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 5:23PM

The NCAA violated it because no college team could go anywhere else. -- HOO86 03/29/2019 5:38PM

I believe at the time Penn had its own TV contract -- VTHokie2000 03/30/2019 08:14AM

NCAA banned individual school TV contracts in 1951 -- HOO86 03/30/2019 12:52PM

You may be right about ESPN not really wanting the Pac-12 properties -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 09:22AM

Right now PAC12 is in a bad deal with the PAC12 Networks. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 2:30PM

Even if the Pac-12 Network is currently a bad deal -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 3:28PM

I'm almost cheering for them to succeed -- EDGEMAN 03/27/2019 08:57AM

I definitely agree that the Pac-12 is at a huge disadvantage -- VTHokie2000 03/27/2019 10:35AM

Clearly that's what Larry Scott thinks. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 4:01PM

Maybe it does under perform to the point of embarrassment -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 4:12PM

SEC goes through 2034 with ESPN. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 4:56PM

The ACC should have insisted its media deal be on the SEC timeline -- EDGEMAN 03/27/2019 09:02AM

"Should" being the key here, but stranger things can happen -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 5:01PM

Obviously, for an on going concern, what comes 20 years after ... -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 02:52AM

True, but there are fans in other age groups who may have an interest -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 09:59AM

The ACC basically followed the SEC model, PAC must feel smarter than SEC on -- Stech 03/26/2019 12:09PM

Where money might be different, ACC MODEL with ESPN is different -- Mercury 03/26/2019 6:54PM

Agreed, I meant we partnered with ESPN like the SEC did, PAC is doing the -- Stech 03/26/2019 9:13PM

One thing now for sure. Turning down ESPN killed any PAC12 shot at Texas. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 5:19PM

But is that a "final" offer from espn? -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 02:32AM

No way to know. The report is past tense. No idea of current discussion. ** -- HOO86 03/29/2019 5:19PM

Re: One thing now for sure. Turning down ESPN killed any PAC12 shot at Texas. -- Stech 03/26/2019 9:20PM

Even if the Pac-12 had signed the deal, Texas to the Pac-12 may still -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 5:47PM

You now no longer need to use the word "may". It is now solid. ** -- HOO86 03/26/2019 6:45PM

My point was it was solid prior to the Pac-12 making its decision ** -- VTHokie2000 03/27/2019 10:51AM

Before the only shot was if ESPN owned the PAC-12 rights. Now No Shot. -- HOO86 03/27/2019 4:44PM

And that "only shot" you reference was probably somewhere -- VTHokie2000 03/27/2019 4:59PM

PAC-12 is following Big East Football Conference model. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 12:59PM

It may not even be a question of whether the Pac-12 believes it is smarter -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 12:39PM

So you would pick the PAC model over the SEC model? Please yes or no then -- Stech 03/26/2019 5:08PM

It isn't a black-n-white answer because there are other factors -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 5:17PM

Well Larry Scott/PAC put them in that position to get that offer so I don’t -- Stech 03/26/2019 9:03PM

Because you do not know how much ESPN was willing to pay them -- VTHokie2000 03/27/2019 10:49AM

Did espn low ball the Pac-12? Sure they did. -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 02:21AM

I don't disagree with anything you said -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 09:18AM

And I agree with your agreement. : ) -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 09:24AM

You are right the Pac-12 is probably foolish for turning down an ACC-type -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 09:35AM

Anyone who has any doubt on Swofford's media dealing is correct. -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 09:42AM

If Swofford was handling the negotiations himself -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 09:48AM

Okay I get it, you back the PAC, that you Bill Walton? 😁 -- Stech 03/27/2019 6:52PM

No, I am not Bill Walton. Nor do I support the Pac-12 or the SEC. -- VTHokie2000 03/27/2019 7:12PM

And people say Stanford has one of the best business schools in the US..lol ** -- EDGEMAN 03/25/2019 11:53AM

Exactly. Difficult to see the forest from the trees, apparently... ** -- OU_Sooner 03/25/2019 12:31PM

Unless the Pac-12 realized that ESPN was intentionally low balling -- VTHokie2000 03/25/2019 1:15PM

NCAA banned individual school TV contracts in 1951

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